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• By reading up Craps strategy, before you play, you'll minimise your losses by sticking to profitable bets with a low house edge. You can avoid the costly bets that only suckers make, and in the long term you'll increase your expected value from the game.
• One of the things “serious” craps players have always liked about the Axis Power Craps forum is the fact that I post my trip reports “warts and all.” That means when I have a losing trip I talk about it. I also encourage forum members to do.
• 'Playing for a long period of time is certainly a negative EV in craps an all other table games except card counting in bj. Playing the pass line is not a good bet in my opinion. Stacking large odds behind is the casino's way to lure you into a losing bet.

I played an individual craps machine ...

This is most interesting. I hope some other WoV member can give details about the machine itself.
I was going to send a 'thank you.' Then, I saw that this is your first post. Thank you. And welcome to WoV.

I played an individual craps machine at the 'Strat' the last time I was in Vegas. I just saw a Youtube video that they are now also downtown at 'The D'.

The Don’t Pass For Dummies 4.0,
the video created by BigAZ Craps Guru
a big time hedge player and loser that claims he is a GURU and a... (lifetime winner)
ok
mentions interblock in the video (not the folks that make shoot to win craps)
as to other installs or trials in Vegas
I know of no others as of today
that can easily changeI haven’t seen it yet, but I’ll tell you where I’d play it if I saw it:
McCarran!

Casino floor is all about maximizing profit. These games at 1.41% house edge are not nearly as profitable as traditional slots...but are installed for diversity. Craps players bring wives, spouses, girlfriends (or boyfriends) who may partake in other higher profit games. I'm hoping to see more of these single seat stations.

Blackjack and craps with live dealers requires open space, lights and surveillance cameras galore. Any floor plan analyst will be happy to put a 1.41% machine in a nook or cranny rather than devoting prime floor space to it,
That way the need for variety is met by using sub-prime floor space somewhat distant from the primary ebb and flow corridors.

Casino floor is all about maximizing profit. These games at 1.41% house edge are not nearly as profitable as traditional slots...but are installed for diversity. Craps players bring wives, spouses, girlfriends (or boyfriends) who may partake in other higher profit games. I'm hoping to see more of these single seat stations. As noted, as of today I believe it's the Strat and D for now.

I worry about craps, especially with the proliferation of the bubble machines. Offhand the game seems bulletproof; casinos might tweak it by adding new high HE side bets, but the core game (with it's payouts) remains the same regardless of whether you're playing at the Wynn or Whiskey Pete's.
In this age of watered down pay tables, 6:5 blackjack and triple 0 roulette, however, what's to stop them from changing the line odds to 9:5, 7:5, 7:6, and changing the place odds to 5:3, 4:3, 8:7? You could argue that since craps is a game that takes some time to learn, the players will easily spot the change leading to an angry revolt, and you might be right ... but that doesn't mean they won't try.TDVegas

I worry about craps, especially with the proliferation of the bubble machines. Offhand the game seems bulletproof; casinos might tweak it by adding new high HE side bets, but the core game (with it's payouts) remains the same regardless of whether you're playing at the Wynn or Whiskey Pete's.
In this age of watered down pay tables, 6:5 blackjack and triple 0 roulette, however, what's to stop them from changing the line odds to 9:5, 7:5, 7:6, and changing the place odds to 5:3, 4:3, 8:7? You could argue that since craps is a game that takes some time to learn, the players will easily spot the change leading to an angry revolt, and you might be right ... but that doesn't mean they won't try.

They have already watered down the ATS bet in many casinos. It's possible. In this environment...I wouldn't be surprised with anything the casinos do to increase their hold.

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Craps is a dinosaur in terms of operation costs. 2 dealers, stickman, boxman to man 1 table. If it wasn't for tradition and player outrage....the game would have been retired or they would come up with alternatives. Bubble craps.

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If it was any other business product in terms of cost to operate....it would be in a museum. It stil makes money, obviously....but it's a rotary phone in a world of technology advancement and how many employees it takes to operate. Think of the 1950's when 4 guys at a gas station would surround your vehicle to pump gas, clean the windshield, check the oil and put air in your tires.
I really have no idea if craps popularity is waning or changing. Electronic craps won't help the cause of table craps. Aruze has installed 3 or 4 Roll to Win Craps tables. Traditional size table. 1 stickman. Bets are made on individual player touchscreen and the table surface is some type of proprietary LCD screen. Looks like an electronic pinball with bets 'zapping' to their numbers. Players roll regulation dice just like traditional craps....1 employee to run the game.

Most players bet the Pass Line and the Come, and they avoid the Don’t Pass and Don’tCome, even though the Don’t side offers slightly better odds. Here’s why.

For a refresher on Don’t bets, see our list of craps bets.

Most players do not understand the Don’t

You can’t bet what you don’t understand. You can learn more about the Don’t betsin our articles about types of craps bets.

Don’t bettors seem out of place

Most craps players are betting the Pass and Come and rooting for their points tobe made instead of a seven. Don’t bettors not only miss out on this camaraderie,but their goals are in direct opposition to the rest of the table, almost makingthem seem like an enemy.

Don’t bettors might not get to roll the dice

A Don’t bettor might already feel out of place by betting contrary to the rest ofthe table, and rolling the dice when in that position could make the Don’t bettorfeel even more out of place when (s)he’s in the spotlight. So many Don’t bettorstherefore decline to roll the dice. But by doing so they miss out on one of themain experiences of playing craps in the first place.

The table layout discourages Don’t bets

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While the Pass Line and Come bets are clearly and brightly marked, the Don’t Passand Don’t Come are not so obvious.

Laying odds on the Don’t side requires a bigger bankroll

Making the Free Odds bet on the Don’t side means you have to lay odds rather thantake them, meaning you have to bet more in order to win less, instead of bettingless in order to win more. Although the house edge winds up being the same, it stilltakes more capital to play the Odds on the Don’t side. (See our article on Free Odds bets for more on this.)

It’s harder to use a system on the Don’t side

On the Pass side you can raise or lower your Free Odds bet easily as dictated bywhatever system you’re using. But on the Don’t side, the amount you put on the FreeOdds is the amount you’re laying in order to win a lesser amount, so it gets complicated.